Friday, October 29, 2004

With my ADMIN hat on - posting to boards and lists

It is rare that I take my admin hat on and post ex-cathedra, and even less often now I have cut down on the nunber of boards I administer but I still look after the same handful of very quiet lists.

In reply to an offer to email details privately I wrote today to

It is aways best to post the the full details to the list, preferably as a family group with date place, birthplace, occupation - in the style of an 1881 census entry or a wedding certificate for example - and the answer - including failed searches - to the list.

The dialogue gets archived for future researchers, including yourselves if you have a bad computer failure, or for living cousins to find you by.

It particularly it pays to post village and farm names in my experience - and it is easy for the rest of us just to delete our version when we clean out our mailboxes

regards to all

Hugh W


List Topic: A mailing list for anyone with a genealogical interest in the New Forest, a wooded area in southwest Hampshire, England, that was originally a royal hunting ground established by William the Conqueror in 1079.

Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: User Home Pages WATKINS and LAPHAM of Monmouthshire and Bristol UK my cousins owned the The Crown Hotel Lyndhurst

William Henry Jones (son of James Jones and Mary Jones) was born Abt. 1866 in Raglan, and died Abt. 1926 in possibly Lyndhurst Hampshire.

More About William Henry Jones:
Kelly's Hampshire: 1923, Page 34 illustrated advertisement for the Crown Hotel.
Lived: Bet. 1911 - 1926, The Cottage, Lyndhurst, Hampshire.
Occupation: Bet. 1920 - 1926, Manager, Crown Hotel, High Street, Lyndhurst, Hampshire.
Owned by: 1920, The Executors of Mrs Jones, Crown Hotel, Kelly's.
Successor: 1939, Edward Vandyk, Crown Hotel, Kelly's.

The widow Mary JONES originally of Raglan
and her four children from Usk Monmouthshire

took over the Crown Hotel Lyndhurst circa 1889 to 1919
her putative father was a brickyard owner and builder and she was probably responsible for the present listed facade

More About Mary Jones:
Baptism: January 11, 1841, St. Cadocs Raglan.
Mary Jones married James Jones March 15, 1864, St. Cadoc's Raglan.

Census 1: 1881, Bridge Street Grocery & Drapery Shop Usk.
Census 2: 1881, John R. PALMER, Crown Hotel.
Census 3: 1901, Crown Hotel, High Street, Lyndhurst, Hant..
Occupation 1: 1881, Grocer & Draper.
Occupation 2: Bet. 1889 - 1919, Hotel Proprietor.
Owned by: 1875, Mrs George Ernest Lowman, Crown Hotel in Kelly's.
Sister in law: 1881, Edward Jones. - 1871 Wales Census
• Coming soon:
Monmouthshire - ooohhh DARN IT - been waiting years and years to sort these JONES !


never seen this view before
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someone forgot the .index.html page

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Wednesday, October 13, 2004

Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: Photo

--==HELP needed from Australia!!!==--

Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: Photo: Tip Ollemor: (Name?) ~ Kurt Jørgensen: Ca. 1 year old ~ Ollemor: Augusta Vilhelmine Møller ~ Ollefar: Jacob Marius Jørgensen ~ Faster: Eva Jørgensen

see RootsWeb Message Boards - Message [ Kobenhavn [Copenhagen] ]

Dose any one have an idea where the name Sternou and Gjelf came from?
They don’t seam particular Danish could some one give me a clue?

I believe that his father: Jacob Marius Jørgensen was a shoemaker and by coincident found a link on DDD

Viser husstandSamtlige personer i husstanden kbhv, København (Staden),

Blegdamsvej (Lige numre), No. 114, Matrikel 92 B, , 1. Sal, 4, FT-1885
Der vises flg. felter:
Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
Jacob Jørgensen, 43, Gift, Husfader, Skomagermester,
Hanssine Petrine Jørgensen, 43, Gift, Husmoder, ,
Jacobine Martine Jørgensen, 16, Ugift, Barn, ,
Frederik Christian Louis Jørgensen, 14, Ugift, Barn, ,
Eduard Emil Jørgensen, 11, Ugift, Barn, ,
Jacob Marius Jørgensen, 8, Ugift, Barn, ,
Anna Petrea Victoria Jørgensen, 5, Ugift, Barn, ,
Valther Paul Jørgensen, 3, Ugift, Barn, ,

Could some one confirm this in the archives or let me know the best way to do this?

Monday, October 11, 2004

Help with danish family history

This is the most active of the danish message boards with many danes helping out RootsWeb Message Boards Denmark General

Re: Randers Denmark
and my good deed for the day In Reply to: Randers Denmark by: Chas

These people are mostly out side of Denamrk and very helpful and friendly RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: Denmark : DENMARK

with a good web site The Denmark List FAQ and "The Danish Connection website which does not google well because it is by invitation from the list and on - Your private family website. It's quick and easy..

Sunday, October 10, 2004

Boards > Topics > Census > Denmark > General

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a bad mistake - or two

Surnames: Jensen Nielsen Hansen Pedersen Andersen Christensen Larsen Sørensen Rasmussen Jørgensen Petersen Madsen Kristensen Olsen Thomsen Christiansen Poulsen Johansen Knudsen Mortensen Henriksen Jansen Eriksen Jespersen Mikkelsen

none in the body of the message and they should be separated by commas :-(

oh they ARE - the most common -sen = son of surnames and can be tricky to manage.

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Tuesday, October 05, 2004

Google Search: somerset

Google Search: somerset tried a new idea searching the subdomain
27 hits much better than my usual google style

RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: England : Bristol_and_Somerset is where I hang out and we meet annually in Clutton for a bunfight

which civil war LOL

from my email:-

a great suggestion is to subscribe to one (or more) of the Rootsweb maillists. There are MANY military lists and I'm sure one would meet your needs.. You can post your question on the list and there is bound to be someone out there who will answer

Jayne, Kristin, DsRoots & WillCivil War Weekly Fireside Newsletter


but guess which civil war LOL
Ruddy is muddy - no mention of dates or places

Topic: A mailing list for the discussion of events during the Civil War and genealogical matters related to the Civil War. Additional information can be found on the Civil-War List Homepage.
There is a Web page for the CIVIL-WAR mailing list at

see The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition

A war between factions or regions of the same country.

A state of hostility or conflict between elements within an organization: “The broadcaster is in the midst of a civil war that has brought it to the brink of a complete management overhaul” (Bill Powell).

Civil War The war in the United States between the Union and the Confederacy from 1861 to 1865. Also called War Between the States.

Civil War The war in England between the Parliamentarians and the Royalists from 1642 to 1648.

expect many events in 1911 - 150 years on

Sunday, October 03, 2004

CINDY BLANKENSHIP said 'Where did I come from?'

CINDY BLANKENSHIP: "This site is devoted to my search for answers to the age old question 'Where did I come from?' "

Are you using Dream Weaver, WS_FTP, or Front Page to publish your site?

in my email from
or RootsWeb: Genealogy Mailing Lists: Freepages-Help

In a message writes:
If you are trying to get to your file manager, you need to go to

Are you using Dream Weaver, WS_FTP, or Front Page to publish your site?
If so, you will need the information to upload. There's a login, password,
etc.....all of which can be found at the Rootsweb site. Of course, someone
familiar with that may be able to tell you exactly where to look, as I just
use the file manager to do all of my pages. It just seems a lot easier than
the programs available --

First DO use My Network Places in any Microsoft operating system
and the Wizard to set up this url

I use

you MUST use

and open it

then put into your browser address bar

Windows OS - and Netscape have built in ftp
separate utilities are unnecessary and belong to the past

if you paste:-
the edit this page after navigating to the one you want to fix

edit it using Netscape Composer
WYSWIG or TAGS of HTML code according to taste
and then publish
it works well
with one disadvantage it duplicated the gif and jpg
which were already in my images file on site.
so I used fileman to go on line (ie or into my folder on the Rootsweb machine's hard disk)
and delete the duplicates and repair the broken links which appeared in the page which is my front door to that site.

The changes to this Danish national archives web site on Monday 27th September 2004,
meant I needed to update that page twice this week,
adding the news about passwords and fixing some broken links

I used "right click for a new new window " in a google search string
which found the other three pages for me.

Then I found an URL had been changed and a link was was broken
the search string
found the 4 pages to fix
updated October 2 2004 Hugh Watkins
goes in the footers
Mrs. Google said:- "Your search - "updated October 2 2004 Hugh Watkins" - did not match any documents," which means google is not updated yet
finds nearly all my pages - and a noticeboard
and created "Hugh Watkins" finds 27 more,
and now I can see where I need to review and update
Please note all these tools are freebies !

BTW you don't really need to buy books on html anymore
finds which found two mistakes in my copy pastede code of
this page:-
both in line 287 - and so back to fileman

OH! and the people of define html and other standards
so a site search will find lists of character sets for example
and the latest version of HTML

Saturday, October 02, 2004

Under construction

Randers Census Folketælling master index FT-1855
I have been resting this page since February 2004
and there are 997 links which I am indexing by street name
so I did 200 yesterday.

You can work with these web sites in several ways,
but I no longer use an FTP application because,
with My Network Places in a newer Microsoft OS,
I can just drag and drop files into the folders on my desktop.

Yesterday I used Netscape Communicator to edit Danish parish registers and census online help the front page but the application insisted on uploading new copies of the three graphics - waving Dannebrog, tiny Dannebrog and the background which I keep in my images folder private ! be gone ! that one is closed by an .index.html page.

When I took over responsibility for Merionethshire WalesGenWeb pages, I added an images folder and moved the images into it, then an index which became an inventory of images by editing the web editor page.
Next I created a site history folder into which I moved the older pages like Merionethshire WalesGenWeb and repaired the links to the new postiuons of the images.

This work is most easily done by using FreePages File Manager but I have had a frightful job to log on to dnkcen when using the online file manger for the last two days.

RootsWeb: Freepages gives unlimited web space which is paid for by ancestry dot com and their advertising. This means most of my stuff is ISP independant and free of charge with a good chance of survivng my own death.

It is difficult to navigate from Home Page
to RootsWeb Online Editor system, because you have to remember to go via RootsWeb's HelpDesk Index and scroll down to get to RootsWeb HelpDesk: Online Web Editor

Anyway I logged on yesterday by trial and error - I hope I can remember how to today !